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Evertson
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:16 pm

Good evening everyone.

I really, yes really do not understand this whole discussion about speed. Once a day I startup my machine in 10, 20, 30 seconds. I do not care. The rest of the day my machine (with Solus for many years) is extremely fast. Most of the time I do my work in WPS spreadsheets. Sometimes more than 1000.000 rows (yes) and 50 colums. Solus does the job perfectly. So ( it's maybe my age, it's maybe my state of mind) but why the discussion about speed? Meanwhile making a cup of coffee or going to the toilet takes 100 times more time. But anyway : for many years Solus was, is and will be my favorite. Fast, stable, reliable and secure. So . SOLUS FOREVER. Whatever the startup time will be.

Greetings and have a nice weekend.

sondya.boberg
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:31 pm

Yeah, but I'm not on a laptop. I have a desktop.

I guess after the graphics card upgrade (hopefully a Nvidia GTX 1050 or 1070), I'll change the hard drive to an SSD. That userspace really needs some optimization.
Computer: Dell Inspiron 3250
OS: Solus Budgie
CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 @ 3.30 GHz, RAM: 8 GB, GPU: Intel(R) HD Graphics 530, HDD: 1 TB

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kyrios
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:45 pm

Evertson wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:16 pm
Good evening everyone.

I really, yes really do not understand this whole discussion about speed. Once a day I startup my machine in 10, 20, 30 seconds. I do not care. The rest of the day my machine (with Solus for many years) is extremely fast. Most of the time I do my work in WPS spreadsheets. Sometimes more than 1000.000 rows (yes) and 50 colums. Solus does the job perfectly. So ( it's maybe my age, it's maybe my state of mind) but why the discussion about speed? Meanwhile making a cup of coffee or going to the toilet takes 100 times more time. But anyway : for many years Solus was, is and will be my favorite. Fast, stable, reliable and secure. So . SOLUS FOREVER. Whatever the startup time will be.

Greetings and have a nice weekend.
Well it's because one of the specificity of EvolveOS Solus is to have more aggressive optimizations and faster boot than other classical distributions.
I guess the topic was more a kind of game at the beginning, but it is also allow people to detect eventual problems in their boot sequence.
This is also a nice indicator to check how the boot time evolves over time (i.e: impact of new per-enabled services, of systemd upgrade, ...)

Also not everyone has the same usage of their computer. You say it is not important but people who use a slow laptop for example and who have to power it on and off multiple times a day for whatever reason may consider this as a very important criteria.

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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:31 am

kyrios wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:45 pm
Well it's because one of the specificity of EvolveOS Solus is to have more aggressive optimizations and faster boot than other classical distributions.
I guess the topic was more a kind of game at the beginning, but it is also allow people to detect eventual problems in their boot sequence.
This is also a nice indicator to check how the boot time evolves over time (i.e: impact of new per-enabled services, of systemd upgrade, ...)

Also not everyone has the same usage of their computer. You say it is not important but people who use a slow laptop for example and who have to power it on and off multiple times a day for whatever reason may consider this as a very important criteria.
It was precisely a bit of fun when I started this post and to show off Solus' speed, it also get people talking on the forums a bit as well, which was the point of my other two posts (Where are you from?) and (What drew you to Solus?). They both just served to get people interacting more and discussing things.

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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:48 am

rtyp@lyuda ~> systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 22.555s (firmware) + 88ms (loader) + 1.124s (kernel) + 4.358s (initrd) + 329ms (userspace) = 28.457s

rtyp@lyuda ~> systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @329ms
└─multi-user.target @329ms
└─NetworkManager.service @274ms +54ms
└─dbus.service @244ms
└─basic.target @243ms
└─sockets.target @243ms
└─snapd.socket @242ms +494us
└─sysinit.target @241ms
└─apparmor.service @69ms +172ms
└─local-fs.target @68ms
└─local-fs-pre.target @68ms
└─systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @58ms +9ms
└─kmod-static-nodes.service @48ms +2ms
└─systemd-journald.socket
└─-.slice

Yep, my firmware sucks.
Will edit my post later to share my laptop's one.

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Geert
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Hi justin,
hadn't any notice because what is 1 second more ore less :-) at this speed
But discovered :
  • systemd-analyze blame
    1.741s snapd.service
    857ms apparmor.service
    348ms dev-nvme0n1p2.device
    337ms upower.service
    313ms systemd-journal-flush.service
    307ms systemd-resolved.service
    279ms dev-loop0.device
    269ms dev-loop2.device
    261ms dev-loop3.device
    253ms dev-loop1.device
    249ms dev-loop9.device
    249ms dev-loop4.device
    237ms dev-loop6.device
    228ms dev-loop8.device
    227ms dev-loop7.device
    126ms systemd-timesyncd.service
    105ms lightdm.service
    104ms dev-loop5.device
    88ms snap-sudoku\x2dgame-1.mount
    83ms initrd-switch-root.service
    78ms snap-core-3017.mount
    72ms colord.service
    66ms user@1000.service
Seems Snap is the naughty one :-)
Image

spinnekop
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:49 pm

Not bad I think....

Acer E1-571. Intel Core i5-3230M, 8gb RAM, Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller, HDD model: TOSHIBA_HDWM110 size: 1000.2GB

systemd-analyze Startup finished in 7.472s (firmware) + 174ms (loader) + 1.097s (kernel) + 1.597s (initrd) + 3.655s (userspace) = 13.997s

systemd-analyze blame
1.618s udisks2.service
1.053s dev-sda8.device
877ms dev-loop0.device
836ms apparmor.service
827ms dev-loop1.device
642ms NetworkManager.service
642ms qol-assist-migration.service
639ms systemd-journal-flush.service
602ms lightdm.service
443ms initrd-switch-root.service
356ms systemd-resolved.service
314ms media-windows.mount
228ms colord.service
226ms bluetooth.service
173ms systemd-rfkill.service
170ms upower.service
169ms wpa_supplicant.service
163ms systemd-udevd.service
139ms on-demand-cpupower.service
138ms clr-boot-manager-booted.service
133ms avahi-daemon.service
82ms dev-sda10.swap
81ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
75ms systemd-logind.service
75ms initrd-parse-etc.service
74ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
72ms systemd-timesyncd.service
60ms systemd-user-sessions.service
54ms polkit.service
51ms systemd-sysctl.service
48ms accounts-daemon.service
42ms user@1000.service
36ms snap-brave-8.mount
33ms snap-core-3247.mount
31ms dev-hugepages.mount
30ms systemd-fsck-root.service
25ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
23ms systemd-journald.service

khalismur
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm

----> systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 1.692s (firmware) + 96ms (loader) + 1.185s (kernel) + 1.043s (initrd) + 2.654s (userspace) = 6.673s

On a fast i7 SSD laptop.
How is it possible that the backlight takes double the time to start than any other service???

----> systemd-analyze blame
1.248s systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
613ms lightdm.service
516ms apparmor.service
509ms dev-mapper-SolusSystem\x2dRoot.device
287ms initrd-switch-root.service
217ms udisks2.service
189ms systemd-journal-flush.service
166ms lvm2-pvscan@8:2.service
147ms systemd-udevd.service
141ms systemd-resolved.service
99ms NetworkManager.service
97ms on-demand-cpupower.service
64ms initrd-parse-etc.service
62ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
58ms systemd-timesyncd.service
57ms systemd-rfkill.service
49ms ufw.service
49ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
49ms upower.service
46ms clr-boot-manager-booted.service
38ms user@1000.service
31ms polkit.service
30ms colord.service
23ms systemd-sysctl.service
22ms systemd-fsck-root.service
21ms dev-hugepages.mount
20ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
19ms accounts-daemon.service
18ms tmp.mount
17ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
17ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
15ms wpa_supplicant.service
14ms systemd-journald.service
13ms dev-mqueue.mount
13ms systemd-remount-fs.service
12ms avahi-daemon.service
11ms initrd-cleanup.service
11ms systemd-update-utmp.service
10ms systemd-random-seed.service
9ms systemd-logind.service
6ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
6ms systemd-backlight@leds:asus::kbd_backlight.service
6ms kmod-static-nodes.service
5ms systemd-user-sessions.service
3ms alsa-restore.service
2ms initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service
1ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
1ms snapd.socket

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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:56 am

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systemd-analyze                                                                                  
Startup finished in 3.884s (firmware) + 2.142s (loader) + 1.202s (kernel) + 3.820s (initrd) + 25.244s (userspace) = 36.294s

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systemd-analyze critical-chain                                                                   
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @25.123s
└─multi-user.target @25.123s
  └─systemd-resolved.service @24.958s +164ms
    └─network.target @24.957s
      └─NetworkManager.service @22.352s +2.604s
        └─dbus.service @20.442s
          └─basic.target @20.440s
            └─sockets.target @20.440s
              └─snapd.socket @20.421s +18ms
                └─sysinit.target @20.421s
                  └─systemd-timesyncd.service @20.206s +214ms
                    └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @19.921s +264ms
                      └─systemd-journal-flush.service @1.901s +18.019s
                        └─systemd-remount-fs.service @1.526s +373ms
                          └─systemd-fsck-root.service @584542y 2w 2d 20h 1min 48.184s +170ms
                            └─systemd-journald.socket
                              └─system.slice
                                └─-.slice

Laptop with Intel Core i3-4005U, 4 Gb RAM and yes, it sucks :lol:

sondya.boberg
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Re: How fast can you boot Solus?

Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:25 am

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584542y 2w 2d 20h 1min 48.184s +170ms
How is that even possible?
Computer: Dell Inspiron 3250
OS: Solus Budgie
CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 @ 3.30 GHz, RAM: 8 GB, GPU: Intel(R) HD Graphics 530, HDD: 1 TB

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